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Discussion => Silk Road discussion => Topic started by: anonymart on January 30, 2013, 12:20 am
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So correct me if I am wrong...
It looks like the new USPS tracking system is getting rid of DCNs which allowed customers to get a pack of them without requesting them from anyone and pay for the price with stamps, very anonymous. Now it seems that you will have to go with your package so they weight it and then put a tracking sticker on it once weighted. This is only available for priority boxes or express, first class will not have a tracking system so privacy will be completely gone, they will have to see your face and package before putting tracking information on package.
I dont like it, do you? will you stop using tracking bc of it??
As a vendor with this new system will you switch to first class? How does this change affect you? Any ideas or suggestions?
Thanks.
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I was in the post office today talking with the worker and the new dcn are free whether you get them online or in person.
For me personally it doesnt make a difference, all you lazy packaging vendors are gonna have to step up your packaging techniques.
If you cant pack a order without someone the package is addressed to opening it and conceal the contents you need to start thinking outside the box on techniques.
Protip: you might have to make stealth investments for your orders.
X)
nomad
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The new tracking system are 90 cents each, unless if you are shipping via priority boxes in which case it is included.
This is not a matter of who is crafty in packing. This is a matter of security, and that many of us are not so naive to walk right into
a post office and parade around the cameras. Many online vendors, on silkroad and in the broader community never set foot in post
offices to do their deliveries. It is far more anonymous to buy stamps and affix DCN's, which is why you see so many vendors that
provide DCN's. This is not a matter of "stepping up" It's a matter of common sense that some of us will no longer be providing tracking,
or face the choice of getting our faces connected to illegal activity. Some of us deliver hundreds of packages weekly, to suggest that these
vendors start exposing their faces openly is reckless, and unprofessional.
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This is not a matter of who is crafty in packing. This is a matter of security, and that many of us are not so naive to walk right into
a post office and parade around the cameras.
It certainly is.
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I was in the post office today talking with the worker and the new dcn are free whether you get them online or in person.
For me personally it doesnt make a difference, all you lazy packaging vendors are gonna have to step up your packaging techniques.
If you cant pack a order without someone the package is addressed to opening it and conceal the contents you need to start thinking outside the box on techniques.
Protip: you might have to make stealth investments for your orders.
X)
nomad
Actually, when I first started out vending, I never used tracking. But then I had several douche bag buyers claim their package never showed. Since I started using DCN, I have not had one person say that they didn't get their package. This is the only reason I use DCN.
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seen 2 vendors requiring FE now, fuck this is gonna be a trend, i bet we will also see FE for cheaper price and escrow for a higher price to compensate for potential scammers dammit usps, and fuck scammers for existing lol
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The new tracking system are 90 cents each, unless if you are shipping via priority boxes in which case it is included.
This is not a matter of who is crafty in packing. This is a matter of security, and that many of us are not so naive to walk right into
a post office and parade around the cameras. Many online vendors, on silkroad and in the broader community never set foot in post
offices to do their deliveries. It is far more anonymous to buy stamps and affix DCN's, which is why you see so many vendors that
provide DCN's. This is not a matter of "stepping up" It's a matter of common sense that some of us will no longer be providing tracking,
or face the choice of getting our faces connected to illegal activity. Some of us deliver hundreds of packages weekly, to suggest that these
vendors start exposing their faces openly is reckless, and unprofessional.
New tracking is free for any priority shipment not just boxes. And is free as well for standard post (parcel post/1st class mail flats/packages).
You do not need to walk into a post office to send it to get tracking. There are many other ways. This has had no effect on how I send my packages except that it costs more.
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The new tracking system are 90 cents each, unless if you are shipping via priority boxes in which case it is included.
This is not a matter of who is crafty in packing. This is a matter of security, and that many of us are not so naive to walk right into
a post office and parade around the cameras. Many online vendors, on silkroad and in the broader community never set foot in post
offices to do their deliveries. It is far more anonymous to buy stamps and affix DCN's, which is why you see so many vendors that
provide DCN's. This is not a matter of "stepping up" It's a matter of common sense that some of us will no longer be providing tracking,
or face the choice of getting our faces connected to illegal activity. Some of us deliver hundreds of packages weekly, to suggest that these
vendors start exposing their faces openly is reckless, and unprofessional.
New tracking is free for any priority shipment not just boxes. And is free as well for standard post (parcel post/1st class mail flats/packages).
You do not need to walk into a post office to send it to get tracking. There are many other ways. This has had no effect on how I send my packages except that it costs more.
Post office did say it was free for priority and express and other things but for first class it would cost 90 cents which is fine but she made it sound like you have to come in with package so they weight it and then put tracking sticker on it.
I am going to simply try to buy tracking without bringing my packages in with me with CASH. If that works then wonderful I will be happy if not I would be open to other suggestions naturally.
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So do you guys think that this change is because of us?
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Took a few months off went to get DCN's and I can't. What's the work around. I'm gonna call and see if I can just pick up 20 or so ahead of time but havn't checked into it yet.
Any feedback would be appreciated.
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I dunno if its cause of the new system, but they fully gave me wrong details on tracking from sunday til tuesday..
they said that a International package a friend sent me had been tried to be deliverd and a notice was left..
Funny thing is i saw my mail lady and she had nothing for me. but it said my package was at my P O.
So i called the P O tuesday morning to tell them no slip was left and my tracking claimed a package was attempted to be delivered but no one was home to sign.
They asked my address and said no we had no package for u yesterday,but the truck is here maybe its on it..
So i told them my tracking said it is at their P O..So i called back 1hour later and she said No maybe its coming fed ex or ups? i had to say again..'NO ITS A INTERNATIONAL EXPRESS PACKAGE' she puts me on hold comes back and says here it is, just came in this AM.. be home to sign..
so i was kinda freaking out, but everything went fine.. The supervisor said probly someone scanned it as tried to deliver cause they r suppose to have it to u with in so many days after it clears customs and they messed up..
still had me nervous as shit...thank god it was all good..It as not a SR pack and i would never have even called if it was,but from a friend in another country, and she always sends a bunch of little gifts and Original OC'S also, and there is no way their finding them.. id let the cops open the package and go through it, its truly that good..
But i wonder if it was cause of the new track system or what?
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New tracking is free for any priority shipment not just boxes. And is free as well for standard post (parcel post/1st class mail flats/packages).
You do not need to walk into a post office to send it to get tracking. There are many other ways. This has had no effect on how I send my packages except that it costs more.
I take pPharm's word on this because I've borne witnessed to the postal expertise of that team over there
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New tracking is free for any priority shipment not just boxes. And is free as well for standard post (parcel post/1st class mail flats/packages).
You do not need to walk into a post office to send it to get tracking. There are many other ways. This has had no effect on how I send my packages except that it costs more.
pPharm has the postal expertise down pat, so this is my answer
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As I understand it, there are tracking stickers (now white, self stick) that are free for priority mail at least. I think I have seen them in stacks (pads) and continuous rolls. I think there is a shortage of them at this time. I am guessing that they will be easy to get later. I heard you could even order them online for free (but they are backordered).
I have heard some postal workers will hand some out. I have not found any free ones yet and have been told they can't be given out - you have to bring the package to the counter or buy postage online with the sticker included when u print the postage for the package. I don't think this is true. I have not wanted to make a fuss at the counter though. I'll keep trying and expect to find 'em free soon :-) NWN
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Lot of bad information here. The 400 tracking labels can be gotten over the counter but only if you find a helpful employee, otherwise you have to order them online. That's bad unless you have an absolute foolproof drop location that can't be linked to you; otherwise, your anonymity is fucked.
These 400 labels can be affixed to any first class, standard post, or priority mail package; it's just that it will cost different amounts for each class of package. But make no mistake, you can pay with stamps and drop off at mailboxes, just as with DCNs. You just have to weigh them correctly.
goblin
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I went to post office and tried to buy some of the new USPS tracking for first class which is 90 cents and the lady said I needed to bring packages and then the tracking sticker will get printed and she will then put in package. If this is misinformation then every post office I go to is misinform. Yes perhaps they will change this policy once they realize they are losing a bunch of money but not necessarily as USPS has been broke for quite some time bc they offer all these benefits to employees they can't afford and the government just keeps bailing them out with our money.
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Lot of bad information here. The 400 tracking labels can be gotten over the counter but only if you find a helpful employee, otherwise you have to order them online. That's bad unless you have an absolute foolproof drop location that can't be linked to you; otherwise, your anonymity is fucked.
These 400 labels can be affixed to any first class, standard post, or priority mail package; it's just that it will cost different amounts for each class of package. But make no mistake, you can pay with stamps and drop off at mailboxes, just as with DCNs. You just have to weigh them correctly.
goblin
I will look into this and see if I can find a post office that can sell them to me.
....and yes fuck JP Morgan and invest in silver, gold or even bitcoins! George Orwall definitely called it.....
........this whole situation just reminds me that soon we will have absolutely no privacy what so ever, the little bit we have left anyways will be gone too. I watched this movie recently called The Campaign, its a comedy that makes fun of at least the last three national elections and brings to light just how corrupt everything is.
YOU SACRIFICE FREEDOM FOR SECURITY AND YOU WILL LOSE BOTH.
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THE NEW SYSTEM HAS BEEN FUCKED UP!!! ITS TELLING ME PACKAGES are still out after they have been deliverd..
I got a package Sent friday,got it Saturday!!! it says on the track its just delivered today!! WHATS UP?? HAVE U ALL NOTICETHIS??
IT EVEN HAPPEN WITH ANOTHER PACKAGE SAYING it had been 'attempted for delivery but no one was home to sign..This was not a drug package,so i called th USPS local and asked tm if they had it cause tracking said they did.. they said NO..
Then i called back and they said it just came in with the truck...wtf??
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THE NEW SYSTEM HAS BEEN FUCKED UP!!! ITS TELLING ME PACKAGES are still out after they have been deliverd..
I got a package Sent friday,got it Saturday!!! it says on the track its just delivered today!! WHATS UP?? HAVE U ALL NOTICETHIS??
IT EVEN HAPPEN WITH ANOTHER PACKAGE SAYING it had been 'attempted for delivery but no one was home to sign..This was not a drug package,so i called th USPS local and asked tm if they had it cause tracking said they did.. they said NO..
Then i called back and they said it just came in with the truck...wtf??
Yea its been extremely qwerky lately
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ive not seen any sort of green or white dcn stickers at any postoffice lately, but thats just my take, and for every anecdotal story is an expert so says the complete opposite so someone needs to get to the bottom of this.
read this, a super-expert on the usps claims they can only be gotten online or at the counter. Even with cash you still got ur face on camera.
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=112044.0